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October 15

I need this corrected !

Hi, Please can someone help me! My name is Kate Ashley and I am an actress. whenever I type my name Kat Ashley comes up. this is an historical figure and not me a film actress. I did not put that name or picture, and I don't understand how to correct it. I need my info to be correct in order to get film roles and audition. If anyone knows how to stop this from happening please let me know what I can do. Thank you Kate Ashley — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kateashleymcconnell (talkcontribs) 00:28, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

I see two ways to stop this from happening: adopt a stage name that does not appear anywhere on the Web, or become more notable than Kat Ashley. We cannot help you with either. We're not going to erase an historical figure for your convenience.
If a casting agent says they won't see you because you're not in Wikipedia, either they're an idiot or they're looking for someone well established.
If your listing in IMDb is wrong, there are ways to correct it, but that has nothing to do with Wikipedia. —Tamfang (talk) 01:02, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
Tamfang doesn't get it: Kate isn't Kat and Kat isn't Kate. Accurate reading isn't convenient, I guess.
Anyway: go to Kate Ashley, when redirected to Kat Ashley, you see the text "(Redirected from Kate Ashley)". Click on that link, and you end up on a redirect page that you are free to change into a page about yourself. Of course one assumes that notability criteria (WP:NOT) are met. See Help:Redirect#Creating and editing redirects for more information. LRataplan (talk) 01:40, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
Oh, by the way, I'm sure it'd be appreciated if you added a text along the lines of "This page is about the American actress. For the governess of Elizabeth I, see Kat Ashley." See Wikipedia:Disambiguation for more information. LRataplan (talk) 01:47, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
Customarily we do not encourage anyone to create an article about themself, not even by repurposing a redirect page, not even if they're Notable. But if Kate were to do so, and if it somehow were not promptly deleted, I agree that it ought to have a hatnote pointing to Kat, who apparently was also known as Kate (the redirect presumably exists for a reason). —Tamfang (talk) 01:54, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
If Kat was also known as Kate, that should be on her page. It isn't. Obviously, the redirect page is for the convenience of people who have trouble typing, which is pretty common (that must be the most ironical redirect here). Repurposing it for someone actually called Kate is therefore not a problem. Writing a page about yourself isn't a problem, writing without bias usually is. Having checked IMDb, I can imagine speedy deletion. However, the question was about fixing the redirect and that is both a Wikipedia issue and easily remedied. LRataplan (talk) 02:03, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
I nominated the redirect for deletion. TigraanClick here to contact me 14:48, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

History of Seacroft

Ref number 15 is in red. Please fix Thanks Srbernadette (talk) 00:36, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

 Done MB 01:53, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Help me! Photo removals that I own the copyright of and want on my wiki page.

Hello- Some user by the name of Ahmad had my photos posts taken down twice now using my own website as the reason for the "violation". Identifying sources should be done so accurately by confirming if they are the same copyright holder before removing revisions/profile additions. I would like my photo additions to be reinstated please. If you don't have the authority or capability, I'd like someone from Wikimedia to intervene on my behalf, so Ahmad and whoever else will stop unfairly flagging my photos that I own the copyrights of that I'd like to be featured on my Wiki page. Thank you, Anchorandwings — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anchorandwings (talkcontribs) 01:22, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

[ also asked on user talk page and at Teahouse. — jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 01:59, 15 October 2019 (UTC)  ]
Answered at the teahouse. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 02:01, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Weird formatting in infobox

Reading the infobox for Montana, I saw the population count followed by the year of the census. That the population gets digit grouping is obviously fine, but the year? Not so much. "2,018" is confusing at best. But I can't edit it as it is apparently part of an automatic formatting process and trying to figure out how that works equals drowning in information. I fixed this particular instance with a zero-width joiner (List of XML and HTML character entity references, ‍) but that isn't very productive since all states (I checked another five) have the same problem and as soon as the next census data is in, one could start over again. And that's beside the point that four-digit figures usually don't get digit grouping, afaik, but that may be a local phenomenon. LRataplan (talk) 01:28, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

@LRataplan: The 2010Pop parameter is only intended for a population number. I have added (not yet documented) a population_as_of parameter to the used infobox [1] and added population_as_of = 2018 to Montana.[2] PrimeHunter (talk) 02:06, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
@PrimeHunter: Thanks, that infobox template link is massively useful, am now studying Template:Infobox settlement. I think I understand formatnum, if semantically more than syntactically :-D Not sure the population_as_of tag (as suggested by the settlement template) meshes with the 2000Pop/2010Pop entries, though. Shouldn't there be a 2018Pop instead? Makes it a bundle easier to check if e.g. population density figures are still up-to-date (not that I'm not going to change them to auto, though). But I have no idea of the frequency of US censuses (censi?). LRataplan (talk) 02:54, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
@LRataplan: The United States Census is every 10 years. 2000Pop and 2010Pop were originally intended for census numbers. Editors wanted updated estimates but a general population parameter was never added to {{Infobox U.S. state}} so 2010Pop was used. I agree the name has become misleading and will consider adding the population_total of {{Infobox settlement}} before we get a 2020Pop which is then used for estimates later in the 2020s. formatnum is not a template but a magic word so it has another syntax with colon before the parameter. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:23, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

list of vegans

  hello   wikipedia   ,
  can   you   add   
  my   name   ...
  to   list   of   vegans   =
  please   add   :
  michael   weisbach             independent   researcher   ,   author   ,   artist   ,   publisher          germany  
  thanks   .
  michael  — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:25, 15 October 2019 (UTC) 
No. The list of vegans is for those who are considered notable, i.e. have articles. Clarityfiend (talk) 04:52, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Indexed in search engine.

Hi, If a page is under AfD, will the page can not to be searched in google? CASSIOPEIA(talk)

It's a confusing situation. If a page under AfD is under 90 days old then it gets noindex in the html which asks external search engines to not index it. Google respects this. The page will be added to Category:Noindexed articles regardless of age but will actually be indexed if it's over 90 days old. "Page information" under "Tools" in the left pane will claim indexing is allowed regardless of the age. So both features are wrong but in opposite directions. None of them know the 90-day rule. See more at Wikipedia:Controlling search engine indexing#Indexing of articles ("mainspace"). The only reliable way to see if indexing is allowed on an article is to search for <meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow"/> in the html source of the rendered page. If the html says this then indexing is not allowed. If the html doesn't say it then indexing is allowed – at least for articles. For other namespaces, indexing of some pages is disallowed by our robots.txt file without any of our software features registering it. Articles could technically also be disallowed by but we never do that – unless somebody screws around with the file but I haven't heard of that. And to make the confusion complete, is based on url's so a page disallowed by it may still be indexed with an alternative url (not redirects). Our robots.txt tries to protect against one way this can happen by listing page names with both colon and the percent encoding %3A but this isn't always done, and there are other ways a deviant url may sneak by. Features based on noindex work regardless of the url – as long as the page is here at and not an unofficial mirror. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:15, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Geraldine McCaughrean

Awards section, 2018. Correction. The correct title of the Independent Bookshop Week Award is The Independent Bookshop Week Book Award — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:18, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Done & sourced, but you could have edited that yourself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LRataplan (talkcontribs) 16:43, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Tools for removing non-section redirects in templates?

Does anyone know if there are any tools to assist with fixing redirects in templates (where generally they shouldn't be, unless they are to a *section*). This may not be the correct place to ask, but I'm not sure what is. (For example, I'd like to fix Template:Aboriginal peoples of the Northern Territory which still has over 20 redirects in it.) In general to be respectful of previous ordering, I'm simply looking to replace [[A]] which redirects to B with A. Naraht (talk) 15:40, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

My guess is that you'd get a better answer at WP:VPT. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:48, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Diane Enos

Extended content


] Diane Enos author; Creator of the Lara Destiny novels and the Adventures of Rick Steele Born Oct/16/1953 Des Moines, Iowa Children Shannon (daughter)

 Kristopher (son)

Writing career Diane Enos was born to write. From an early age, paper and pencils were her best friends. She would pick a picture and create a story behind it. She learned to read from the DC comics, creating her own comic books. The comic books brought her to the pulp magazines; Doc Savage, the Shadow, the Spider and a zillion other characters. From the Pulps it was Mickey Spillane, Ian Fleming, then on to Len Deighton, John LeCarre. But She didn't stop there. There was nothing she wouldn't read. Technical manuals, physics text books, any of the sciences, the human condition. And besides the cops and robbers he went to the stars with science fiction. When Alan Shepard made that first flight, she knew we never stop there. And when she started to write, it all paid off. She had built a routine of research that lead her stories steeped in reality. Her first published novel was Killer Cowboys from Space.

The pen name. From the beginning, in an era of male author writing crime fiction, she chose to be Dick Enos thing that that was the only way the books would cell. With the latest novel, the Laughing Devil, she has decided to claim what is hers.

Personal life Diane has been married twice. With two children from her first marriage Shannon (daughter married to Russ Grabbe two children.) Kristopher married to Jessica three children) and eight grandkids and four great grandchildren from her second marriage. She's now single and has become that crazy cat lady writer, living with two very old cats Sparky the ancient and Sprout the hungry

Novels in the Rick Steele series: Lara Destiny novels:

 Killer Cowboys from Space          The Pink Kitty Killer
 Vengeance of the Wolf              Target T Girls
 The Lost City of Azgara            The XXX Slave Ring
 The Yesterday Men                  The Defiled
 The Monster of Chinatown           Vacation Hoodoo
   Pt. 1 Death on Ice               Spank Me Till I Die
   Pt. 2 Terror in the City         The Long Slide
 Death Makes a Screen Test
 The Unknown People
Thanks for wanting to contribute, but this is not the place for an article draft. Please follow the guidance at WP:YFA to create a draft for review. RudolfRed (talk) 17:42, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Unacceptable Admin Article Conduct

Can someone explain to me why it is acceptable for this admin to speak to me like this while reviewing my article? Absolutely ridiculous and completely unprofessional. This draft is my first wikipedia article and obviously there would be errors which I would need to correct, yet I am forced to deal with this condescending attitude from someone who is supposed to be a Wikipedia professional. Bearcat needs to be reprimanded and I would like to speak to someone that can do so. Attached below is a screenshot of the response I received from Bearcat after my last edit

Bearcat response Oct 10 .png

Thank you,

Brandon — Preceding unsigned comment added by BrandonPandyamonium (talkcontribs) 18:48, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Bearcat is absolutely correct, I see nothing inappropriate at all with their comments. - FlightTime (open channel) 18:55, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
BrandonPandyamonium I don't see what was in any way offensive about what Bearcat told you. Bearcat was being accurate and honest with you about notability. Keep in mind that it is difficult to convey emotion with text communication; it is necessary to assume good faith, which is an important principle of Wikipedia, instead of assuming that people are being mean to you. In any event, this is not the forum for complaints about administrator conduct; that would be WP:ANI. However, I would encourage to you take a step back for a moment and consider the matter carefully, and possibly discuss it with Bearcat, before going there. 331dot (talk) 18:57, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
Agreed, and I mean no offense either but would add that a WP:DIFF is a much better way to point to a particular edit. That's the thing with Wikipedia, there's a lot to learn before you can really contribute effectively. I think that's the central message here. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:59, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
I would add that Bearcat has taken the time to add more advice than most AfC reviewers might do. In this he is trying to be helpful. Unfortunately, as it tends to go about things in a 'businesslike' way, Wikipedia can be (as noted above) a difficult environment for new users and getting a good feel for how it operates can take some time. There are many useful links at your talk page I would suggest you study them carefully, read the page about creating your first article, together with the notability guide and what constitutes a reliable source. I would seriously not recommend you pursue any sort of complaint in this matter. Good luck. Eagleash (talk) 19:59, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
I agree with those who have responded above, in finding nothing offensive or condescending in what Bearcat wrote. He could just have used the "declined" notice, but explained at some length in his comment what kind of sources are needed. And he is not "professional": he receives no more payment for his contributions to Wikipedia than you do. Maproom (talk) 22:32, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Created an article


I created an article and it has the title: "Draft, Inc." before the title and I can't seem to fix it and don't have a "move" tab. I just created it. How do I know if it's under review?,_Inc.

Nataliesands (talk) 20:32, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Users must be confirmed before they can create pages in article space. And, sorry, but as you can see I have deleted the page as it was simply PR for the company and not a neutral encyclopedia article. Wikipedia strongly discourages articles where the author has an inherint conflict of interest for exactly this reason. I see you are complying with WP:PAID, which is a good first step, but you need to find independent reliable sources and use those as the basis of any article. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:40, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

New wikipedia page for website


Kindly note that, I want to create a wikipedia page for the website . I have made my Login with username Mehmood350 but do not know where to start. So, please help me.

Kind Regards

Mehmood350 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mehmood350 (talkcontribs) 20:37, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Start with WP:YFA, and I would also suggest WP:COI and WP:PAID if those happen to apply. In short, diving right in to writing complete articles is generally not going to go well unless you fully understand the asic content policies first. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:42, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Mehmood350 In a moment, I will leave a welcome message on your talk page, which will have many links to useful information. I recommend you start by reading "Your first article", which will give you helpful advice about creating an article in Wikipedia, then learning about "notability", learning what constitutes a reliable source, and reviewing the links in the welcome message I'm going to leave for you. Having done all of that, if you are convinced you understand the requirements for articles and have appropriate sources about, your can create a draft using the Article wizard, and submit it to articles for creation for review. However, I do not recommend creating a new page right away. Rather I recommend you proceed slowly, improving some of our existing articles for some time to get a better handle on editing, wikicode, and the culture here. Category:Wikipedia articles needing copy edit and Category:Wikipedia articles needing factual verification are good places to start. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 20:48, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

User Box question

Is it possible to do what I want, while creating a User Box? Does anyone know how to make that User Box "rectangle" as just one full rectangle ... without separating the smaller left side from the larger right side? Is there a way to make the User Box as just one, full rectangle? Sort of like the box I created below? In the box below, I "cheated" by taking the left side and making it the same exact color as the right side. I'd like a User Box to look like this, in appearance. But, have the text be visible (perhaps, centered) in the full rectangle ... not have the rectangle split into a left and right side. Is this possible?


Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 21:58, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Template:Userbox says:
| id-w          = <!--id box width in pixels (default=45)-->
Use | id-w = 0:
This userbox has id-w = 0
id must be omitted or empty for this to work. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:19, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 19:12, 16 October 2019 (UTC)


Carole Radziwill

Ref number 8 is in red. Please fix. thanks Srbernadette (talk) 22:32, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

 Done ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 22:36, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

City of Modena

Hello! I was wrong with a photo in the page of Modena (an italian city). How can I resolve it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Albypino (talkcontribs) 22:35, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Albypino I fixed it. The problem was that you included the brackets around the image name. When an image is in an infobox, the brackets are unnecessary. (When the image is not in an infobox, however, they are.) ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 22:39, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

October 16

When you see a typo, then what?

Sometimes when I am using wikipedia to gather data, I come across typos in the content. Most often it is simply a misspelled word.

I would like to report the errors. Although I frequent the site, I must admit that I am not familiar with the protocol when finding errors.

I would like to help make the experience better for all those who use the site. What is the best course of action?

Click 'edit source', either at the top of the page or the section you are viewing. Correct it and put 'typo' in the edit summary. Then click 'preview' to make sure it has rendered correctly and then click 'publish' to save the page. If you don't wish to do this, that's OK, these errors usually get picked up reasonably quickly (surprisingly). Thanks for wanting to help out! (Please sign your posts on talk pages by using four tildes like this: ~~~~.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 01:06, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
However also be aware 2600:1011:b11e:f3ea:3089:e309:a249:3bd3 that some articles stylize in the form of English the article is best suited to. Such as Game of Thrones being American English, while Queen Elizabeth II being British English etc. with differences in many common words like color, mom, centre' etc. Most large articles will include which is used above the edit box, for those that don't, a bit of logic is required — IVORK Discuss 03:19, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
Hi and welcome! Feel free generally to jump right in to fix any obvious spelling or language errors you see.
Some pages are protected because they attract abuse or are the subjects of disputes. If you find you can’t edit one of these then we can advise you on how to proceed. (Usually the answer will be to leave a note on the article's discussion page.)
As an alternative to editing the whole page, you can use the Edit links that’re next to section headings (pencil icon on mobile). Editing a single section can make it easier to find the part you want to change.
We have millions of articles with varying numbers of eyes on them. As Eagleash said, it can be surprising how quickly errors can get fixed, but it can also be surprising how long some errors hang around. We retain previous versions, so you can see in a page's History when things have changed.
Best wishes, Pelagic (talk) 03:10, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Alerts, Notices, VPN

I don't edit much anymore. Anyways, I want my alerts and notices to go to 0, so I can tell when I get a new one. Also, I use a VPN, and WP won't let me edit with it. I'm logged in, so it's not like I'm an IP trying to evade a ban or whatever. Thanks. Peregrine Fisher (talk) 02:24, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

@Peregrine Fisher: you should be able to mark all your notifications as read from Special:Notifications. You can also click the red number (or the bell-shaped icon if there are no alerts), and that should activate a drop-down menu. From there, select the option to mark all notifications as read. To edit from a blocked VPN, you'll need IP block exemption. You should email the functionaries and briefly explain why you'd like to use a VPN. Privacy concerns are a valid reason. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 06:41, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Help with yesno and TH in Template:Sydney Trains patronage by line

I have help editing the table in this template. I want to make "T9=yes" highlight the first three (3) rows and the bottom row, total of 4 rows.

  • Article that requires "T9=yes": Northern Line (Sydney) - table currently only highlights the last row.
  • Article that requites "T1=yes": North Shore & Western Line - table works properly, where first two rows are highlighted and last row is not.

Marcnut1996 (talk) 03:09, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

What if you write the template at Northern Line (Sydney) § Patronage like this:
{{Sydney Trains patronage by line|T1=y|SL=y|T9=y}}
Doesn't that do what it is that you want?
Trappist the monk (talk) 11:42, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
I beat you to it [3] and got an edit conflict when I tried to ask if it does as wanted. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:47, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
Were we racing?
Trappist the monk (talk) 11:58, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
My apologies, what I meant was for Northern Line (Sydney) to highlight first, third and last row. I wrongly stated for the second row to also be highlighted. The second row should not be highlighted. The problem with just putting T1=y means that the second row is also highlighted. Marcnut1996 (talk) 22:15, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
If I understand the purpose of that template, it displays patronage for the period 1 July 2018 – 30 June 2019. According to the footnotes, it appears to me that T1 (old), T1 (new), SL, and T9 were all in use during the 1 July 2018 – 30 June 2019 period. If this template uses a data set that shows the patronage of those lines in the period, then shouldn't the highlighted rows be T1 (old), T1 (new), SL, and T9? The non-zero T1 (new) patronage tally seems to indicate that it should be included. What am I not understanding?
The obvious change that I think should be made to the template is a footnote identifying the period for which the graph and table in the template apply rather than free-floating text outside of the template. And, define: 'Opal tap on and tap off'.
Trappist the monk (talk) 22:43, 16 October 2019 (UTC
The Northern Line (T9) was previously part of the old T1 until April 2019. The new T1 is basically the old T1, without the Northern Line (now T9). So the Northern Line page should not highlight T1 (new) as it is not part of the latter. Also, 'Opal tap on and tap off data' is the data of passenger usage based on usage of Opal card, tapping on and off at boarding and alighting stations respectively. This is understood to the context of a person living in Sydney. Marcnut1996 (talk) 01:19, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

Should i ask someone to write an article on my behalf?

Hi there, I actually wrote the article for a company. And contacted you guys and one of your team members said that this article will not be approved as it looks promotional. My question is "should I ask someone/professional writer to write the article so that it does not look promotional? as English is not my first language thus not that good in it. If I get a professional English speaker/writer to write about this company then can the article be published on Wikipedia? and I will inform him not to write like a promotional article. I need your comment/reply on this question so that I can pay someone else to write it on my behalf.

Is there any link where everything is mentioned about what to take care if we want to write for Wikipedia? if yes, please do share that link with me too. Thank you very much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daljit Singh Khalsa (talkcontribs) 08:54, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Daljit Singh Khalsa. Trying to use Wikipedia to promote anybody or anything is a fundamental mismatch with the purposes and goals of Wikipedia. Please don't do it, in any way. If you try it (whether you do it yourself, or get somebody else to) you are likely to have frustration and upset - and even if you succeed in getting an article created about you, you may not be happy with the result. Please find other outlets to tell the world about your company. --ColinFine (talk) 09:02, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
@Daljit Singh Khalsa: Please read WP:YFA. Note especially: if the subject is not notable, then no article is appropriate, no matter who writes the article. Any other shortcoming can be fixed, but no amount of editing can overcome a lack of notability. Don't even try. Your article will fail to be accepted, and if it is forced onto Wikipedia it will immediately be deleted. If, after you carefully read and understand our definition of notability, you still feel that most reviewers will agree that your subject is notable, then come back here and we can try again. -Arch dude (talk) 04:38, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

What is Insurance Cosumer Service Department

Dear sir

What is Insurance Cosumer Service Department and it is approved by IRDA. What is the function.

This area is for asking questions about using Wikipedia, not general questions. 331dot (talk) 11:40, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Help:No content cite tags IBBS

I got the message that the draft page International Biodeterioration and Biodegradation Society contains cite tags with no content, but I cannot find any. Please can you help? doktorchris — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doktorcris (talkcontribs)

Looks like it was fixed by Trappist the monk. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 14:04, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

I need help requesting an article


I need help requesting an article be made. I can't seem to find the form I need to fill out. Please help.

Ashlie.Pollard (talk) 13:52, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Ashlie.Pollard Try Requested articles. Your request is more likely to be picked up if you include links to reliable, 3rd party sources about the subject. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 14:01, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
But please note Ashlie.Pollard, that
  1. ) Wikipedia is created by volunteers, who work on what they choose: there is no guarantee that anybody will pick up your request. As ONUnicorn says, if you find and cite some high-quality sources about (not deriving from) the subject, that may make it more attractive to a volunteer editor
  2. ) Unless such independent sources exist, then the subject is not notable in the special sense that Wikipedia uses that word, and no article on it can be accepted; so it is unlikely that anybody will waste their time trying.
  3. ) If the article is about you, or something closely associated with you, then thank you for looking to request an article, rather than trying to create it yourself; but you might not necessarily be pleased with the result. --ColinFine (talk) 14:23, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Loading Pics to the area I updated

I tried to update pictures that I personally took, and they did not load. Commerce section.DeRoLoc Lives (talk) 19:51, 16 October 2019 (UTC)DeRoLoc Lives

DeRoLoc Lives You must be autoconfirmed to be able to upload images. I would suggest becoming familiar with WP:UPIMAGE if you aren't already. 331dot (talk) 20:17, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
But if you took them yourself, DeRoLoo Lives, so you're releasing them as free images, then it's better to upload them to Commons anyway, and you don't need to be autoconfirmed for that. --ColinFine (talk) 20:30, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Pippa Middleton

Please fix ref number 3 - it is in red. thanks Srbernadette (talk) 22:10, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

 Done (by another editor) MB 22:32, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
Done, it is an italics problem. Italics (''text'') and bold ('''text''') are not permitted in {{cite web}} templates for referencing, which gives the red error you saw. I have removed the italics from the reference. Marcnut1996 (talk) 22:34, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Badges and editing

I hear there are badges I can achieve. How can I achieve them? Also I want to have a good user page but I don't know how to edit so can you help me with editing please? Porygon-Z (talk) 23:44, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Maybe wikipedia:The Wikipedia Adventure? Pelagic (talk) 04:29, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

October 17


How come the movie "Meet Joe Black" is not listed in his film history? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:101:8201:7CD0:D11A:2217:5F0C:4770 (talk) 00:55, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Brad_Pitt -- That film is mentioned in the article's 1998 section. RudolfRed (talk) 01:39, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

When did Wikipedia switch from Chicago to APA citation style?

I noticed this evening that Wikipedia reference lists seem to use APA now (date in parentheses). My question is why, and where's the consensus vote that showed this? Chicago Style is so much better.

There is no official reference style on Wikipedia, although a consistent style should be used within a given article. If you prefer the Chicago style, then feel free to use it in articles that you start. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 02:19, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
Cullen328, Thanks, and I realize I can use any style I like, but what I mean is when using the RefToolbar, the style appears to be modeled on APA, but I'm wondering where that decision was made? Hope that makes sense. Doug Mehus (talk) 02:28, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
I do not use the RefToolbar myself, but apparently it is a tool to format references using citation templates, so the talk pages of the various templates would be the best place to raise your concerns about how those templates display references. Wikipedia talk:Citation templates has archives going back to 2005. Start by browsing those archives. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 03:19, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
The most common citation templates are the Citation Style 1 and Citation Style 2 templates. These templates do not follow APA, do not follow Chicago, do not follow Bluebook, do not follow any published style. cs1|2 templates were initially created independently from one another so each had it's own 'style'. During their development, cs1|2 templates were certainly influenced by the various published style guides. Over time, the various templates were merged first into {{citation/core}} and then into Module:Citation/CS1. cs1|2 is now its own style, organically created to suit most citation needs at the English Wikipedia and quite a few of the non-English Wikipedias. These templates were never purely Chicago nor any other style.
Trappist the monk (talk) 12:16, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

To I or not to I, that is the question

There is an article that attempts to describe the layout of a building, its 'shape'. It charmingly says:

The two original wings were designed by John Kellum and were arranged in an I-shape.

This is less than useful, with text in articles these days using Sans-Serif fonts. Elsewhere in the article it says:

The fourth floor contains a similar T-shaped plan as the floors underneath it.

So you can see how the author wanted to use the shape of letters to demonstrate the building shapes.

What was obviously intended (and verified using Google satellite view) was:

The two original wings were designed by John Kellum and were arranged in an I-shape.

Immediately above I have used <span style="font-family:serif">I</span> to force a serifed capital I.

A previous helpdesk question got a grudging answer "well, okay, in that case use <span> to style in conformance to the subject styling."

But the situation here is trying to match the intention to use a letter as a shape description, specifically a serifed capital letter. I can't find any other grudgingly approved method other than <span> to do so.

(There is {{xt}} and friends, like so "I", but they are enjoined from use in mainspace.)

What to do or whither to go? Shenme (talk) 03:59, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

@Shenme: I looked at the I-beam article for inspiration. It uses a special-purpose template {{Ibeam}} to create an I. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:48, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
When writing about architecture on WP and describing building shapes, I have always used the {{smallcaps}} template – for example, "l-shaped", "t-shaped" etc. I tested it with "i" but unfortunately it doesn't work very well: "i-shaped". Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 12:05, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
Shenme is anything at ɪ useful?Naraht (talk) 21:39, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
Ooo, cool, I'd wondered if Unicode had anything specific. I went with using {{Ibeam}} as that seemed most direct and clearest. That is doing the equivalent of <span style="font-family:verdana,serif">I</span> and gets me an I with crossbars, e.g. "I". Thank you all for the several possibilities. Shenme (talk) 02:08, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

Creating a new wikipage

Dear Sir,

I would like to start a new wikipage on the subject of East Asians in Soviet Intelligence. How do I begin and is there someone I need to contact?


O.P. 04:59, 17 October 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonathan Pohl (talkcontribs)

Hello Jonathan Pohl and welcome to Wikipedia. Start by reading Help:Your first article and perhaps WP:No original research carefully. If part of your subject is about living people, WP:BLP is relevant. Perhaps you can find some inspiration in the articles at Category:Soviet intelligence agencies. Good luck! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:25, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Botany Files

I tried downloading the pdf. of the article on "Alliaria petiolata" but my antivirus instructs me that it is infected with a virus. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:08, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Which anti-virus software are you using?  –– Handroid7  talk 11:49, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Is there anything like TEMPLATENAME variable? (for transcluded templates)

In WP:VAR, {{FULLPAGENAME}} and some other variables are listed.

However, is there any way to print the original name of a transcluded template?  –– Handroid7  talk 11:48, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

  • @Handroid7: I am not entirely sure of what you ask. If you want code that makes the template name appear, {{tlx}} is a good option. Are you asking about code that resolves templates redirects (such as {{re}}{{Reply_to}})? TigraanClick here to contact me 14:36, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
    • @Tigraan: Sorry if it was unclear. I was seeking for a method for a template to show its own article name, no matter where it is transcluded, i.e. the same shown by {{FULLPAGENAME}} on the template's own page.
      • Ah OK. Well, I do not see why you would need anything more fancy than just hardcoding the template name in the template, but someone more competent with templates might have an idea. If you don't get an answer here, try WP:VPT next. TigraanClick here to contact me 14:57, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
This is not possible without saving the actual name of the template on the template page in a way so it can be retrieved. Navigation templates often do this in order to get correct V T E links when they are transcluded. For example, {{Wikipedia technical help}} calls {{Navbox}} with the parameter | name = Wikipedia technical help. Without this, {{Navbox}} would have no way to make the V T E links point to the right page. The name parameter is sometimes wrong after a move or incorrect edit and causes a listing at Wikipedia:Database reports/Invalid Navbar links so it can be fixed like [4]. I have heard modules can retrieve the name of the original module but I don't think this can be used for templates. I don't know your use case but if you can get people to save {{SUBST:PAGENAME}} in the template page then this will hardcode the name. Template:Navbox#Usage displays example code with this. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:06, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

When will the page i created go live?


i practiced writing in my sandbox for a few days. But yesterday i clicked on the "Publish changes" and was hoping my page would go live, but it hasent. could you guide me as to when i can expect RDX Sports to go live? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SharonLazarus (talkcontribs) 12:31, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

SharonLazarus In this context, "publish changes" is equivalent to "save changes"; it does not mean "puts your changes on Wikipedia". You must submit your draft using Articles for Creation; however, if you were to do so, it would be rejected, as it is just a promotional piece for the business. From your wording, I gather that you work for RDX Sports in some way; as such, you must review and comply with the conflict of interest and paid editing policies, the latter is a Wikipedia Terms of Use requirement and mandatory. 331dot (talk) 13:40, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
Please understand that Wikipedia is not for merely telling about a company. Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources state about article subjects that meet Wikipedia's special definition of notability(in this case, the definition of a notable company). Wikipedia is not interested in what a company wants to say about itself. Press releases, routine announcements, staff interviews, and other primary sources are not acceptable for establishing notability. Wikipedia is interested in what independent reliable sources state on their own about a subject; in order for you to be successful in writing about your company, you would need to forget everything you know about it and only write based on what independent sources say. Most in your position cannot do that. 331dot (talk) 13:45, 17 October 2019 (UTC)


I wanted to contribute but I don’t put my money on the Internet so if you can provide an address I will mail a check — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:587:4201:D220:D5B2:9965:969F:D403 (talk) 17:58, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

See donate:Ways to Give. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:04, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Help with Publishing


I made a new page about photographer Lindsay McCrum and can't seem to figure out how to publish the page. I keep clicking publish and it still isn't working. Have refreshed the page multiple times and even waited a week to see if it just needed time to upload. Not sure what I am doing, any advice? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marcodavid9410 (talkcontribs) 20:38, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Marcodavid9410 In this context "publish changes" is equivalent to "save changes". It does not mean "publish your changes to the encyclopedia" Note that you clicked "publish changes" to edit this page as well. This was recently changed for legal reasons(so people are legally aware their changes are public)
To submit your page for a review and feedback, please use Articles for Creation. 331dot (talk) 20:53, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Distinguish name for math function

Hi folks, What is the rule distinguising a maths function, if at all re:Relative likelihood and User talk:BetterMath scope_creepTalk 21:34, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

How to make a User Box bigger

How do I make a User Box bigger ... meaning, more width and more length? Here is the "code" below that I am using.

{{userbox| | border-c = #000000 | border-s = 2 | id = {{nbsp}} | id-c = #ffeeff | id-w = 0 | info = My text is here. | info-c = #ffeeff }}

Which produces this:

 My text is here.

So, what if, say, I want the Box to be twice as tall and twice as wide? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 21:45, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

I have not tested it out yet but adding |id-w = and |id-h = should change the width of the id box (left box) respectively. Their parameters are the number of pixels you want so, |id-w = 1000 would make a box with a width of 1000 OkayKenji (talk page) 00:21, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
However, I just noticed that may not work for chaining the width/height of the "info" side (the side that says "My text is here.", "won't work with userbox with just one full rectangle"). OkayKenji (talk page) 00:32, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
It's not possible to change the width, as the module always sets the total width to be 240 pixels. I think the height expands to fit the contents. -- John of Reading (talk) 03:37, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

October 18

Two questions

First question: Could anyone please tell me if it's acceptable to abbreviate "science fiction" as "SF"? Second question: Could anyone please tell me if it's acceptable to count the file data for pictures between paragraphs as an acceptable space (manifesting as a normal space between paragraphs) or should a single blank line be included as well (with the same result manifesting)?--Thylacine24 (talk) 00:17, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

Where would you be abbreviating to? Within an article, it's possible to create a shortning or acronym for a word or phrase by putting it in brackets for the first use. This is usually only for proper nouns though, so I don't see why it would apply to "science fiction". SF to me would be San Francisco.
I usually don't put in a line, but I'm not sure there is a policy on this. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 00:31, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for responding. I know some of the article had "SF" in parentheses after "science fiction", but I agree that since it isn't a proper noun, it shouldn't apply. As such, I'll take your answer to the first question as "no", and your answer to the second question as being the former option. (Edit: Sorry if anything in the above answer came off as rude or condescending.) (Further edit: Changed "any of the above answer" to "anything in the above answer".)--Thylacine24 (talk) 00:46, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

Capitalization of prepositions when part of the name of an institution (also "the", when it's within instead of before the name)

I found a page in which the linked phrase "Office for the Victims of Crime" was written as "Office for the Victims of Crime", with the link piped with "for", "the", and "of" decapitalized. I changed the link so that the piped part of the link was the only part of it. Could anyone please tell me if it's ever acceptable to capitalize these words?--Thylacine24 (talk) 01:37, 18 October 2019 (UTC)


Can someone explain, briefly, how "consensus" works. I always thought that -- when there is a dispute -- the article remains in its status quo state. And when disputed content is introduced -- and challenged -- the article reverts to the status quo (i.e., the disputed content is removed). And the status quo version of the article remains until consensus is reached on the dispute. And, not that the disputed content remains, while the consensus discussion proceeds. Is my understanding correct? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 03:09, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

Visual Editor problems

I have used VE (to add inline cites) without problem for a few years and now for the last few weeks, I cannot load the VE interface. The blue progress bar quickly moves to about the 75% mark and then freezes until I press <esc>. The problem appears to be specific to my browser (Chrome) as other browsers (eg. MS Edge) will work. I have cleared the cache, waited for an hour to see if it unfreezes, ensured windows and Chrome are updated. I am happy to edit solely in source mode, but do prefer the automatic references in VE. Any other things to try? Loopy30 (talk) 03:13, 18 October 2019 (UTC)