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I was surprised when editing a page about Rashi that the wikilink vintner redirects to winemaker. Was this done out of some consensus? I'm not up on wine, but I know the word vintner and the term "winemaker" sounded odd to me. I know winemaker is plainer English, but I'm surprised it's the most common usage. Ogress smash!
- Certainly in British English a vintner is a merchant rather than a winemaker (qv Worshipful Company of Vintners going back to a Royal Charter in 1364 and probably a long way earlier), but at the moment wine merchant also redirects to winemaker so it's more a reflection of a lack of coverage of the downstream trade in general. FlagSteward (talk) 02:33, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
Wine Advocate's Italian wine chief writer's article up for AfD
See: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Monica Larner. Admittedly the article got off on the wrong foot with Larner herself (and a possible sock) starting the article. But it is, at least, far less promotional than some of the other wine bios that we have had to deal with. While the article can certainly be improved, it has been put up for deletion by folks who think that since wine writers like Larner are "not exactly Shakespeare" then they must be non-notable despite what WP:ANYBIO, WP:GNG and WP:AUTHOR says. AgneCheese/Wine 21:35, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi guys - long time no edit etc etc. My wiki-time remains limited but I thought it was worth mentioning that I now have a copy of the Jancis/Harding/Vouillamoz Wine Grapes book if anyone needs some specific help with referencing grape articles - it's pretty much the definitive modern (post-DNA-sequencing) ampelography. At present I only really have the time to do targeted edits, in the first instance I suggest only Top/High importance grapes, articles that are close to getting to GA, and parentage for the varieties that are important genetically if not vinously - probably best if you give me a shout direct on my user Talk page as the most immediate way of getting in touch. Longer term it would be great to use it to ensure that there was an article on all 1368 grapes listed, but that's a long-term fantasy given my time right now. The typical format for a variety includes:
- Principal Synonyms
- Varieties commonly mistaken for X
- Origins & Parentage
- Other Hypotheses
- Viticultural Characteristics
- Where It's Grown and What Its Wine Tastes Like
The latter is the kind of thing that can be hard to reference even if it's "obvious" - as an example there's 6 pages for Cabernet just on location/taste. I also have the Jancis The Oxford Companion to Wine which is also a useful reference.FlagSteward (talk) 02:26, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
- Hey Flag, good to see you again. As you may have garner, things are pretty quiet these days so it may be a task to try to get anything coordinated going. I also have Jancis' Wine Grape book (as Tomas does as well, if I recall) and I do agree that updating our grape articles with the most current and reliable source on origins and naming should probably be a priority. I've done a little work, here and there, like moving the Charbono/Bonarda article over to Douce noir and updating it, sorting out Bombino nero from Bombino bianco, etc. Mostly I've been doing "smaller projects" that I can get done in a couple hours verses larger page rewrites and article improvements since my time here has been greatly reduced. I still try to keep an eye on this page and would be willing to try to help where I can if you are feeling particularly ambitious about tackling something. AgneCheese/Wine 04:41, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
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