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Comment on the WikiProject X proposal - Trentino-Alto Adige/Südtirol wine

Hello, I would like to seperate "Südtirol wine" from the page "Trentino-Alto Adige/Südtirol wine and update the article. Like you maybe know South Tyrol is a seperate autonomous region and there is a special wine consortium, called Consortium of Alto Adige Wine. The wines from Alto Adige and Trentino differ and should not be put together in only one article. How can I seperate the page and change the title? So I would like to cancel the redirection from South Tyrol wine as well. Everyone agree?--Fanny Dürfeldt (talk) 14:02, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

That's easy to do once you have a confirmed account, which requires 4 days and 10 edits. Then you can move and rename articles, and create new articles.
I am happy to do this for you, but I am not clear on what you are proposing in terms of article titles.
Do you propose two separate articles called Trentino-Alto Adige and Südtirol wine? They already exist as redirects, and can simply be replaced with content. Looking at the original article, I am not sure how the content would be split. Try creating separate sections in the article and then we can discuss forking out the content.
As for cancelling the redirect South Tyrol wine, where else would you want it to redirect? There is no valid reason to delete the redirect because it's a reasonable search term, but if it should redirect to a different article, what is it? ~Amatulić (talk) 16:22, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
I would like to create an article about South Tyrolean wine, the wine zones, the coltivation and the wines. For this I propose to split the existing article Trentino-Alto Adige/Südtirol wine into 2 seperate articles Trentino wine and Südtirol wine. Done this, South Tyrol wine should redirect to Südtirol wine. Also Alto Adige (wine) and Alto Adige (wine region) should redirect to Südtirol wine. Ok, thank you very much for your input, I will start to edit the existing article with more information about South Tyrolean wine and create 2 seperate sections. --Fanny Dürfeldt (talk) 12:28, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
I prefer that the article would be located at South Tyrol wine rather than Südtirol wine? The general article about the province is called South Tyrol rather than Südtirol. For regional wine articles we usually use the English name form, if there is one, for example Burgundy wine. Tomas e (talk) 14:00, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
That's a good point. For the same reason, we have an article on Germany and not Deustschland, which is what Germans call their country. We use English titles on the English Wikipedia if such a title exists. Currently Südtirol wine is a redirect, so it is trivial to point it at South Tyrol wine. I have just done so for the redirects Südtirol wine, Südtirol (wine), and Alto Adige (wine region). ~Amatulić (talk) 14:36, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
Yeas that sounds good. I now worked on the article Trentino-Alto Adige/Südtirol wine. I created 2 separate sections for South Tyrol and Trentino in the Text and add further explanation to both sections. Could you now please divide the article Trentino-Alto Adige/Südtirol wine into South Tyrol wine and Trentino wine with the right redirects? I created a short Infobox for South Tyrol wine, but the infobox isn‘t visible. What is the error in the code? Thank you very much for your help. --Fanny Dürfeldt (talk) 07:10, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
Infoboxes don't appear on redirect pages, although in this case it appears you didn't save your changes; the redirects don't show any such edits by you.
Still a bit of work to do. I am not familiar enough with the subject to trust myself to repair everything properly. ~Amatulić (talk) 15:41, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
Thank you very much! Everything looks fine now! You couldn‘t fix the infobox in South Tyrol wine? Who could help me with that? German and Italian Wikipedia wine articles usually are using infoboxes, which is quite a nice summary of the most important information. Would be nice to have one. I elaborated on the green wine project infobox for wine and changed something in the code. The infobox in the preview article worked perfectly, but the saved version didn‘t worked out.--Fanny Dürfeldt (talk) 10:21, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I didn't fix any infobox because I didn't see any infobox to fix. It is possible thatyou included one but didn't save your edit. Just go to Template:Infobox wine region, paste it into the top of the article, and fill it in as well as you can. ~Amatulić (talk) 18:46, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Expert attention

This is a notice about Category:Wine articles needing expert attention, which might be of interest to your WikiProject. It will take a while before the category is populated. Iceblock (talk) 05:14, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Would it be possible to configure User:AAlertBot to update Wikipedia:WikiProject Wine/Article alerts when something appears in this category? ~Amatulić (talk) 15:46, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
There have definitely been wine-related articles with the "needing expert attention" template in the past, but perhaps via a general template rather than this one. Tomas e (talk) 21:58, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
There is a general template, {{expert-subject}}, which one can add with the parameter "wine". I believe that adding this tag with the proper parameter will cause the page to appear in Category:Wine articles needing expert attention (@Iceblock: correct me if I'm wrong).
I have made a suggestion at Wikipedia talk:Article alerts/Feature requests to add the "expert needed" tag to the ones AAlertBot currently monitors. ~Amatulić (talk) 22:13, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
Yes, the template added is {{expert-subject}} with the parameter "wine", as in Franzia. Iceblock (talk) 19:32, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
@Iceblock: I see the template in Franzia, but I don't see the article appearing in Category:Wine articles needing expert attention as a consequence of that template. Shouldn't it? ~Amatulić (talk) 22:14, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

The template was added to the article before the category was created. The template is designed only to categorize an article if the category exists. In this way, there will be no redlinked categories at the bottom of the article. When I later created the category, it will take time before the article is listed in the category. This has to do with technical reasons, and I cannot say exactly why. Try asking at WP:VPT if you want to know. It might be, but I'm not sure, that the computing power is more evenly distributed, and that the servers update category pages when they "have time to it", between other editing tasks. Making a null edit (click Edit and save without changes) to the article might update the category with that specific article. (Changing the article might also work.) When you click "What links here" on the category, the members might be listed, but not always. There is some information on Wikipedia:FAQ/Categories#Why might a category list not be up to date.3F and this page is linked from empty category pages in the box that says that the category is empty (learn more). Iceblock (talk) 16:02, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject X is live!

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Hello everyone!

You may have received a message from me earlier asking you to comment on my WikiProject X proposal. The good news is that WikiProject X is now live! In our first phase, we are focusing on research. At this time, we are looking for people to share their experiences with WikiProjects: good, bad, or neutral. We are also looking for WikiProjects that may be interested in trying out new tools and layouts that will make participating easier and projects easier to maintain. If you or your WikiProject are interested, check us out! Note that this is an opt-in program; no WikiProject will be required to change anything against its wishes. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you!

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Harej (talk) 16:58, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

New Mexico wineries

I was surprised to find not one single article on any of the many award-winning wineries in New Mexico. (Though there were a couple deleted ones, no surprise there...)

So, I've created List of wineries in New Mexico along with articles on seven notable wineries:

I'm not familiar with the project standards, so these probably need some work, infoboxes, etc. Feel free to help out. Skyerise (talk) 22:43, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Langton's Classification

Looking at developing a NavBox for the Langton's classification. In my view, each of the wines listed on the classification could be considered notable and as a result I initially looked at listing all the various wines under their particular classification, however this became quite long. My second attempt was to list just the wineries (with sub links where relevant), it does result in some duplicates however. What does everyone think? Screech1616 (talk) 13:21, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

In this case, as in the case of most other New World wines/wineries, my opinion is that there should usually be one entry for the producer covering all of their wines. Notable wines might get a section of their own within that article. I think it is much more useful for the reader to have all Henschke's or Grosset's wines, or at least the famous ones, described within one article. Tomas e (talk) 21:27, 10 June 2015 (UTC)